President Yoweri Museveni, who made anti-homosexuality laws in Uganda
much tougher Monday, told CNN in an exclusive interview that sexual
behavior is a matter of choice and gay people are "disgusting."
After signing the bill
that made some homosexual acts punishable by life in prison, Museveni
told CNN's Zain Verjee that, in his view, being homosexual is
"unnatural" and not a human right.
"They're disgusting. What
sort of people are they?" he said. "I never knew what they were doing.
I've been told recently that what they do is terrible. Disgusting. But I
was ready to ignore that if there was proof that that's how he is born,
abnormal. But now the proof is not there."
Museveni had commissioned
a group of Ugandan government scientists to study whether homosexuality
is "learned," concluding that it is a matter of choice.
"I was regarding it as an
inborn problem," he said. "Genetic distortion -- that was my argument.
But now our scientists have knocked this one out."
Dean Hamer, scientist emeritus at the National Institutes of Health, wrote an open letter to the Ugandan scientists in the New York Times last week
urging them to reconsider and revise their report. Among his responses
to their conclusions: "There is no scientific evidence that homosexual
orientation is a learned behavior any more than is heterosexual
orientation."
Ugandan pres. rejects Western criticism
Museveni, whose public
position on the measure changed several times, signed the bill into law
at a public event Monday. The bill was introduced in 2009 and originally
included a death penalty clause for some homosexual acts.
The nation's Parliament
passed the bill in December, replacing the death penalty provision with a
proposal of life in prison for "aggravated homosexuality." This
includes acts in which one person is infected with HIV, "serial
offenders" and sex with minors, according to Amnesty International.
The new law also
includes punishment -- up to seven years in prison -- for people and
institutions who perform same-sex marriage ceremonies, language that was
not in the 2009 version of the bill.
Lawmakers in the conservative nation said the influence of Western lifestyles risked destroying family units.
The bill also proposed
prison terms for anyone who counsels or reaches out to gays and
lesbians, a provision that could ensnare rights groups and others
providing services to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.
The White House issued a
statement Monday: "Instead of standing on the side of freedom, justice,
and equal rights for its people, today, regrettably, Ugandan President
Museveni took Uganda a step backward by signing into law legislation
criminalizing homosexuality."
The statement continued:
"As President Obama has said, this law is more than an affront and a
danger to the gay community in Uganda, it reflects poorly on the
country's commitment to protecting the human rights of its people and
will undermine public health, including efforts to fight HIV/AIDS. We
will continue to urge the Ugandan government to repeal this abhorrent
law and to advocate for the protection of the universal human rights of
LGBT persons in Uganda and around the world."
United Nations High
Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay also denounced the law, saying
it institutionalizes discrimination and could promote harassment and
violence against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.
"This law violates a
host of fundamental human rights, including the right to freedom from
discrimination, to privacy, freedom of association, peaceful assembly,
opinion and expression and equality before the law -- all of which are
enshrined in Uganda's own constitution and in the international treaties
it has ratified," Pillay said in a statement.
Museveni also told CNN that the West should not force its beliefs onto Ugandans.
"Respect African
societies and their values," he said. "If you don't agree, just keep
quiet. Let us manage our society, then we will see. If we are wrong, we
shall find out by ourselves, just the way we don't interfere with
yours."
He also said Westerners
brought homosexuality to his country, corrupting society by teaching
Ugandans about homosexuality. The West has also helped make children at
schools homosexual by funding groups that spread homosexuality, he said.
Attitudes against homosexuality are prevalent in Uganda. A 2013 report from Pew Research found that 96% of Ugandans believe society should not accept homosexuality.
Thirty-eight African countries have made homosexuality illegal. Most sodomy laws there were introduced during colonialism.
Even before Museveni signed the bill into law, homosexual acts were punishable by 14 years to life in prison.
Ugandan gay rights
activist Pepe Julian Onziema told CNN's Christiane Amanpour that some
gay people in Uganda would rather kill themselves than live under the
new law.
"Prior to the bill
becoming law today, people attempted suicide because they are like, 'I'm
not going to live to see this country kill me -- so I would rather take
my life.' "
Many have already left
the country in fear of violence, Onziema said, and among those who stay,
many are stopping their activism.
Onziema, however, says he is not afraid. He says he won't let the law take away his voice.
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